Speaking to eNCA in an exclusive interview on Thursday, Norma Mngoma slammed her soon-to-be ex-husband – former Finance Minister Malusi Gigaba – calling him paranoid, secretive, and obsessed with power and pornography.
In a ‘tell-all’ expose on her rocky relationship with Gigaba, Mngoma aimed to put to bed speculation surrounding what she knows about his relationship with the Gupta brothers, and of course, whether or not she plans to kill him.
She told eNCA that she had agreed to the interview with a view to “closing that chapter, and be known for who I am, my roots”.
She said that divorce proceedings are on the way between the couple, who became engulfed in a messy spat that saw her arrested after she allegedly took a vegetable slicer to a Mercedes Benz G-Wagon that belonged to one of her “philandering” husband’s friends.
She has repeatedly insisted that the case against her is merely an attempt to intimidate and bully her, and to gain unlawful access to her devices. Mngoma said that her husband is chronically paranoid and that his pursuit of the pictures and documents on her phone and computer – or “gadgets”, as she likes to call them – is a result of fears that she may expose his dodgy dealings with the Gupta brothers.
“I can’t put myself in his thoughts, but I think that he’s paranoid. We visited the Gupta’s house together, where I think he thinks I took pictures. They used to ask us to hand in our phones outside, but I’d get bored so I’d fetch my phone. This year he was asking me a lot of questions about what I remember from those meetings.
“He saw I wanted to leave [the marriage], and now he’s worried about what I know,” she said. I love to take pictures. I didn’t know they were supposed to be secret,” she said.
She said that they would frequently visit the Gupta’s home and that her husband would usually walk out with “big bags of cash”. “I never received a call from them, but we were frequently there [at the Gupta’s house] and they used to come to our house too. Especially when he was in the Department of Public Enterprises.”
She said that the Guptas were “advising him who to appoint”, but that they wouldn’t speak in front of her. “There was a lot of cash all the time, he used to use that money for a lot of things, and sometimes give to his sister. They were always there to help [financially].
Mngoma said that Gigaba held onto ambitions of one day becoming South Africa’s President and that this pursuit of power had corrupted him. “He was very ambitious to become President. That’s when our relationship really suffered. I never wanted that. He’ll have to find himself someone else to look at that with,” she said.
She felt like he went “too far by betraying Zuma”, who she said had treated Gigaba “like a son”. “It’s possible that he will become a minister again – anything is possible in politics.”
Then the question many had been waiting for was asked: “Do you want to see your husband dead?”
“I don’t think anyone wants to kill him, I think it’s in his head. If it was true, he would never leave home. He would drive himself, and the bodyguards aren’t with him 24-7, they go home.”
She denied any interest in plotting her philandering ex’s demise. “For me to try and kill him, that’s a complete lie. The Hawks wanted to cover that and that is why they got involved. He’s too obsessed about being ‘so special’. When he was forced to resign [as Finance Minister], he was very angry about the blue lights [police guard] that was revoked.
“He became such an angry person. He told [Police Minister Bheki] Cele that there were people outside with guns that wanted to kill him, but there was nobody there. Sometimes when you are in power for too long, you become attached to it.”
Mngoma also addressed the scandal surrounding the distribution of Gigaba’s private photographs, of… well, his private parts. She said that the leaked images were not intended for her, but that her husband is obsessed with sexting and porn. “He’s always watching porn – for him it’s a fantasy,” she said.